1 00:00:05,059 --> 00:00:03,200 astronomers now know that virtually 2 00:00:07,309 --> 00:00:05,069 every star in the night sky has at least 3 00:00:08,750 --> 00:00:07,319 one planet orbiting around it and they 4 00:00:11,209 --> 00:00:08,760 believe that many of these planet could 5 00:00:12,860 --> 00:00:11,219 Harbor life here's the problem the 6 00:00:14,419 --> 00:00:12,870 planets are orbiting extremely bright 7 00:00:16,099 --> 00:00:14,429 star sometimes billions of times 8 00:00:18,950 --> 00:00:16,109 brighter than the reflection off the 9 00:00:21,050 --> 00:00:18,960 planet but if you can block just the 10 00:00:22,519 --> 00:00:21,060 light from the star all of a sudden you 11 00:00:24,019 --> 00:00:22,529 can study the planet in more detail 12 00:00:26,029 --> 00:00:24,029 let's go figure out how to block a 13 00:00:35,569 --> 00:00:26,039 star's light on this episode of crazy 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:37,770 all right we're here with Nik Sigler in 15 00:00:41,549 --> 00:00:39,970 this very fun looking lab Nik you tell 16 00:00:44,069 --> 00:00:41,559 us a little bit about where we are Mike 17 00:00:46,350 --> 00:00:44,079 we're in JPL's starshade lab what 18 00:00:47,970 --> 00:00:46,360 exactly is a starshade used for Mike 19 00:00:50,430 --> 00:00:47,980 there are two techniques that NASA is 20 00:00:52,799 --> 00:00:50,440 advancing to look for life on exoplanets 21 00:00:55,020 --> 00:00:52,809 the star shade basically is a large 22 00:00:57,119 --> 00:00:55,030 shade that is flown outside of a 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:57,129 telescope with the intention of blocking 24 00:01:01,710 --> 00:00:59,290 the light of the star so then we can see 25 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:01,720 the planets like skirt the shade and 26 00:01:05,130 --> 00:01:03,730 captured by the telescope okay so this 27 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:05,140 is much like I'm looking up at the Sun 28 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:07,450 and I want to see a bird or an airplane 29 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:09,310 I put my hand up to block the sun's 30 00:01:12,540 --> 00:01:10,690 light but we have to do it on a much 31 00:01:14,850 --> 00:01:12,550 larger scale for a star the star shade 32 00:01:17,900 --> 00:01:14,860 itself is tens of meters in diameter 33 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:17,910 that's the size of a baseball diamond 34 00:01:22,139 --> 00:01:20,050 just about how far away from the 35 00:01:24,330 --> 00:01:22,149 telescope would it happen why it's tens 36 00:01:26,490 --> 00:01:24,340 of thousands of miles you can fit like 37 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:26,500 four earths between the telescope and 38 00:01:29,279 --> 00:01:28,570 the shade it's got its own propulsion 39 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:29,289 system 40 00:01:32,999 --> 00:01:31,600 it's literally its own spacecraft how do 41 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:33,009 we get it up into space that's the 42 00:01:36,330 --> 00:01:34,450 engineering challenge is how do we get 43 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:36,340 something that has to deploy to tens of 44 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:38,290 meters of diameter that gets it on top 45 00:01:42,450 --> 00:01:40,329 of a rock so now our engineers have come 46 00:01:45,630 --> 00:01:42,460 up with a technique based on the ancient 47 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:45,640 practices of origami sounds difficult 48 00:01:49,530 --> 00:01:47,680 how do you know that's gonna work well 49 00:01:52,020 --> 00:01:49,540 we do what we always do we start small 50 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:52,030 and we work our way up so we started in 51 00:01:55,469 --> 00:01:53,290 this case with something just a few 52 00:01:58,020 --> 00:01:55,479 inches in size then we built something 53 00:02:00,810 --> 00:01:58,030 meter in diameter and we mature it up to 54 00:02:03,090 --> 00:02:00,820 2 meters and now we finally got up to 5 55 00:02:05,219 --> 00:02:03,100 meters the one that flies in space is 56 00:02:07,380 --> 00:02:05,229 gonna be tens of meters okay so you're 57 00:02:09,150 --> 00:02:07,390 using origami to make this really large 58 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:09,160 star shape it's a fun mechanical 59 00:02:12,330 --> 00:02:11,110 engineering project but you mentioned 60 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:12,340 that NASA is actually investing in two 61 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:13,090 different technologies 62 00:02:16,620 --> 00:02:15,370 what's the second technology that one is 63 00:02:18,479 --> 00:02:16,630 called a coronagraph 64 00:02:21,060 --> 00:02:18,489 the coronagraph can we take a look at 65 00:02:22,170 --> 00:02:21,070 that one let's go okay Nick this is 66 00:02:23,850 --> 00:02:22,180 obviously a lot different than the last 67 00:02:25,350 --> 00:02:23,860 lab we were in we're in bunny suits now 68 00:02:26,940 --> 00:02:25,360 are trying to be super clean can you 69 00:02:29,430 --> 00:02:26,950 tell us where we are right now Mike we 70 00:02:31,710 --> 00:02:29,440 are in JPL's high contrast imaging 71 00:02:34,199 --> 00:02:31,720 testbed lab this is where we test the 72 00:02:36,630 --> 00:02:34,209 next-generation space coronagraphs 73 00:02:38,699 --> 00:02:36,640 behind us is one of our vacuum chambers 74 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:38,709 where we simulate the environment of 75 00:02:42,479 --> 00:02:40,570 space what's the big difference than 76 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:42,489 approaches here with the starshade we 77 00:02:45,809 --> 00:02:44,800 saw that the blocker was way outside of 78 00:02:47,429 --> 00:02:45,819 the telescope 79 00:02:50,220 --> 00:02:47,439 now as another approach we're going to 80 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:50,230 take that huge blocker and shrink it 81 00:02:53,970 --> 00:02:51,760 down to the size of something that could 82 00:02:55,739 --> 00:02:53,980 fit in between your fingers this way you 83 00:02:59,250 --> 00:02:55,749 can fit on the back end of a telescope 84 00:03:02,129 --> 00:02:59,260 this particular mask is the size of a 85 00:03:04,470 --> 00:03:02,139 pinhead all of that star light has to be 86 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:04,480 focused right on to that little pinhead 87 00:03:08,190 --> 00:03:06,310 we want to make sure that the focused 88 00:03:10,530 --> 00:03:08,200 light from the star hits the sweet spot 89 00:03:13,020 --> 00:03:10,540 of the mask so it's critical that we 90 00:03:15,149 --> 00:03:13,030 have a mechanism to control the focus 91 00:03:16,739 --> 00:03:15,159 light all right we saw the star shade 92 00:03:18,479 --> 00:03:16,749 and now the coronagraph they're both 93 00:03:20,429 --> 00:03:18,489 crazy in their own ways and a lot of 94 00:03:21,479 --> 00:03:20,439 really great engineering so what's the 95 00:03:23,369 --> 00:03:21,489 endgame what do we hope to accomplish 96 00:03:25,679 --> 00:03:23,379 Mike we're trying to develop the 97 00:03:28,110 --> 00:03:25,689 technology to be able to look for life 98 00:03:30,899 --> 00:03:28,120 on other planets the hard part is 99 00:03:32,849 --> 00:03:30,909 blocking the light from the star once we 100 00:03:34,409 --> 00:03:32,859 do that we have other technologies that 101 00:03:36,089 --> 00:03:34,419 are much more mature and we'll be in a 102 00:03:38,789 --> 00:03:36,099 better position to look for evidence of 103 00:03:40,409 --> 00:03:38,799 life Nick thank you so much for showing 104 00:03:42,089 --> 00:03:40,419 us both of these approaches in both your 105 00:03:43,500 --> 00:03:42,099 laboratories we really got a sense of 106 00:03:45,209 --> 00:03:43,510 the contrast between the different 107 00:03:46,679 --> 00:03:45,219 approaches hope you guys out there had a 108 00:03:47,970 --> 00:03:46,689 lot of fun learning about it and check 109 00:03:56,670 --> 00:03:47,980 back soon for some more crazy 110 00:04:00,910 --> 00:03:59,050 if you guys like that you can click over 111 00:04:02,380 --> 00:04:00,920 here to watch more crazy engineering or 112 00:04:04,030 --> 00:04:02,390 click here to subscribe to the JPL 113 00:04:05,830 --> 00:04:04,040 YouTube channel if you want to learn a